• The amount of water needed is different from plant to plant.
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Thank you Dwight! (hey, nice last name) =P
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Thank you Dwight! (hey, nice last name) =P
Delia
· 2 months ago
Yes, 'manage' is a bit bossy and condescending. I think the neighborhood analogy (in addition to the garden) is useful: Checking in with the neighbors. Keeping an eye on the neighborhood-- from a caring perspective, not the nosy neighbor ;) Cultivating New growth
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Ooooh! I like the neighborhood metaphor as well. I wonder how far we could extend that one?
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Ooooh! I like the neighborhood metaphor as well. I wonder how far we could extend that one?
JennyB
· 2 months ago
I definitely use this analogy all the time too! They are right on and there really is no better way to describe them. I always tell my team our community is like a garden. We have to get the dirt ready, plant the seeds and give the garden a lot of nurturing for it to grow. They think my favorite word is "organic"..
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Ooooh, yeah. I like organic, and "nurturing".
Dan Martell
· 2 months ago
I love the focus on the wording. The words we use make a HUGE impact on the actions and strategies we take.
Engagement is also a great work. How can I engage in a meaningful / relevant way. I personally LOVE people. I'm curious - however I spend most of my time looking for commonality that were BOTH passionate about.
That is quality engagement.
my2cents.
P.S. Love the blog format!!!
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Thank you!
Yeah, it would definitely be interesting to look more into how much naming a thing affects the actions of that thing. i.e. Do I act differently when I call myself, "like a farmer" than "like a teacher" than "like a principal" etc.?
Sue
· 2 months ago
Don't forget "Fertilizing often" ;)
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Which also begs the question, how much and what kind of fertilizer is healthy vs. unhealthy. =)
Derek
· 2 months ago
Sorry, not a garden metaphor: Circus Ringmaster. You can take the garden ideas too far. :)
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Are you calling your community a bunch of clowns? =P
Scott Moore
· 2 months ago
To your gardening metaphor, I would add: - unable to control weather, sun, extremes -- you have to work with them - Dealing with birds, bugs and gophers (not malicious -- just their nature to eat your garden).
As for metaphors, I sometimes call a distinction between "authoritarian" (top down) and "authoritative" (bottom up). It's fine to be an authoritative voice/influence in a community, but not authoritarian.
This leads to the other metaphor I used in the past: Aikido and the idea of not being able to directly stop or block the actions or intent of others, but to step forward into their movement, match it and then support it, deflect it, or guide it elsewhere.
From this comes the other metaphor of standing on a shifting rug. If you stand still or try to dig in, the rug will pull out from under you and you wind up on your ass. However, if you learn to move your feet, you will be dancing along with the shifting of the rug.
Oh and then there is the party metaphor with creating a space, offering food and drink, connecting guests so they are enjoying each other and not being the center of attention.
For myself, I prefer to use "foster" and "facilitator" as they both imply guidance, influence, and autonomy of members.
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
Scott, thank you for digging in so deep!
Yes, and your comments (In Real Life) earlier today also have me thinking about mapping improv skills against community cultivation/facilitation
Name
· 2 months ago
fertilization
Benoît Faverial
· 2 months ago
Totally agree ! As well as in french, the "managing" point very related to "lead" or "direct" things.
I like the metaphor of the conductor of an orchestra, being the one who coordinate conversations around a brand or a product. This metaphor have another side I like : the conductor alone, without his orchestra is nothing but a moron with a stick ! We are nothing without our community, and I think it's important to remember this everytime
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
hA! I love it! I have definitely been a "moron with a stick" at times.
The Creative Type
· 2 months ago
"Manager" has so many negatives associated with it -- micro managing, seagull managing, over managing, etc. that it is, indeed a terrible term to use in terms of building and maintaining a community. I like "nurturer", but admittedly that may sound too hippy-dippy for some corporate types, and "cultivator". "Faciliator" still sounds too corporate and structured to me.
In terms of analogies, whenever anyone asks what I do and I reply "Community Management", the inevitable follow-up question from non-Web people is always: "Oh ... er, what's that?" I've always used this analogy (which has been touched on already). If you think of the Internet as a city with many streets, and an organization's web site as a house on a street whose doors are permanently open, my job is a little bit like being the hostess of that open house -- you help make introductions and stimulate conversations, you make sure your constant flow of guests are enjoying themselves and you also ensure they don't get out of control and trash the place.
thomasknoll
· 2 months ago
It sounds like good hospitality?
nommo
· 2 months ago
Yep - I agree 'pest control' is definitely a community cultivation chore, as is cultivation of the ground before planting :)
There are also different styles of cultivation - where the nature of community is either allowed to grow 'organically' or is forced by the use of 'intensive' techniques of fertilising etc... there is a fine line between intensive farming and feedlots ;-)
All Comments
I think the neighborhood analogy (in addition to the garden) is useful:
Checking in with the neighbors.
Keeping an eye on the neighborhood-- from a caring perspective, not the nosy neighbor ;)
Cultivating
New growth
could extend that one?
could extend that one?
Engagement is also a great work. How can I engage in a meaningful / relevant way. I personally LOVE people. I'm curious - however I spend most of my time looking for commonality that were BOTH passionate about.
That is quality engagement.
my2cents.
P.S. Love the blog format!!!
Yeah, it would definitely be interesting to look more into how much naming a thing affects the actions of that thing. i.e. Do I act differently when I call myself, "like a farmer" than "like a teacher" than "like a principal" etc.?
You can take the garden ideas too far. :)
- unable to control weather, sun, extremes -- you have to work with them
- Dealing with birds, bugs and gophers (not malicious -- just their nature to eat your garden).
As for metaphors, I sometimes call a distinction between "authoritarian" (top down) and "authoritative" (bottom up). It's fine to be an authoritative voice/influence in a community, but not authoritarian.
This leads to the other metaphor I used in the past: Aikido and the idea of not being able to directly stop or block the actions or intent of others, but to step forward into their movement, match it and then support it, deflect it, or guide it elsewhere.
From this comes the other metaphor of standing on a shifting rug. If you stand still or try to dig in, the rug will pull out from under you and you wind up on your ass. However, if you learn to move your feet, you will be dancing along with the shifting of the rug.
Oh and then there is the party metaphor with creating a space, offering food and drink, connecting guests so they are enjoying each other and not being the center of attention.
For myself, I prefer to use "foster" and "facilitator" as they both imply guidance, influence, and autonomy of members.
Yes, and your comments (In Real Life) earlier today also have me thinking about mapping improv skills against community cultivation/facilitation
I like the metaphor of the conductor of an orchestra, being the one who coordinate conversations around a brand or a product. This metaphor have another side I like : the conductor alone, without his orchestra is nothing but a moron with a stick ! We are nothing without our community, and I think it's important to remember this everytime
In terms of analogies, whenever anyone asks what I do and I reply "Community Management", the inevitable follow-up question from non-Web people is always: "Oh ... er, what's that?" I've always used this analogy (which has been touched on already). If you think of the Internet as a city with many streets, and an organization's web site as a house on a street whose doors are permanently open, my job is a little bit like being the hostess of that open house -- you help make introductions and stimulate conversations, you make sure your constant flow of guests are enjoying themselves and you also ensure they don't get out of control and trash the place.
There are also different styles of cultivation - where the nature of community is either allowed to grow 'organically' or is forced by the use of 'intensive' techniques of fertilising etc... there is a fine line between intensive farming and feedlots ;-)